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Position sizing that survives a stop-out

Turn a percentage risk into a lot size on four instrument types, and round it down the way a broker forces you to.

Position sizing that survives a stop-out illustration

Why this matters

Position sizing is the only part of a trade you fully control before entry. Direction, volatility and news are guesses; the number of lots is arithmetic.

Get it right and a loss is boring. Get it wrong and one stop-out can eat a week of good work, or breach a daily limit in a single trade.

The whole idea is small: decide what a full stop costs in money, then work backwards to the lot size that produces that number. Nothing else decides size.

The three inputs, in order

Stop distance, risk percentage, per-lot value. That is the whole list, and the order matters, because each one constrains the next.

The stop comes from the chart first, measured in pips, points or cents. It sits below the swing, above the wick, outside the noise band, never on a round figure picked for comfort.

The risk percentage is a policy number, chosen once and kept. It does not move with confidence or with the last result. The per-lot value is a market fact, looked up per instrument and nothing more.

Only once all three exist is the size touched, and from there it is pure division. On $100,000 at 1% risk the money at risk is $1,000. A 20 pip stop on a USD-quoted major costs $200 per lot, so the size is $1,000 divided by $200, five lots.

The per-lot value per instrument

The same arithmetic runs on every instrument; only the value changes. A JPY pair is quoted through USD/JPY, so the per-pip value is 1,000 divided by that rate: at 150, roughly $6.67 per lot, and the size rises.

Gold moves in cents and one lot is 100 ounces, so a dollar of movement is $100 per lot and gold sizes come out smallest. An index moves in the broker's stated points, often $1 each, with wider slips.

Exotics and crosses carry wider spreads. Fold the spread into the effective stop, or the size is quietly optimistic on every trade.

Rounding down, minimums and steps

Brokers trade in lot steps, usually 0.01, sometimes larger on indices. Divide by the step, round down, accept the leftover.

There is also a minimum. On a small account 1% can compute below it, which forces a tighter stop or a lower risk percentage. Never cap the size by a comfortable lot figure; the minimum is a floor from the broker, not a target.

After rounding, check the money once: size times stop times per-lot value must land on the planned risk. If it does not, fix the size.

Where the stop goes wrong

The classic error is sizing first. The trader likes the setup, decides on 2 lots, then hunts a stop that makes 2 lots feel safe. The stop ends up inside the noise, so normal movement takes it while the thesis is alive.

Another version is padding the stop for volatility and then keeping the size, which risks more than the plan.

A third is an honestly wide stop that produces a tiny size. That is arithmetic, not a failure: the setup is expensive, so it earns fewer lots. Take the small size or skip it.

Recalculating after every close

Equity moves with every close, so size is recomputed after every close. A spreadsheet row is enough and takes seconds.

Losing five in a row while sizing off the old balance risks more than 1% of what is left, exactly when it is least affordable. Winning five quietly drifts risk downward instead.

On an evaluation the limits move too. A daily drawdown measured from the day start means an early loss today shrinks what is left for later trades today. Prop firms sometimes fix the percentage as a rule; then the size follows that fixed number.

A worked session, one trade at a time

A 12 pip stop on EUR/USD: $1,000 risk divided by $120 per lot is 8.33 lots, and the real risk lands at $999.60, a hair under target.

The same session on gold with a 350 cent stop gives 2.85 lots and $997.50 risk. An index with a 60 point stop at $1 per point gives 16.66 lots and the same $999.60.

Three very different sizes, identical risk. That equality is the entire objective. Write all three rows with the money check beside each.

Common fixes and how to test them

If sizes consistently come out tiny, the stop is too wide for the instrument; tighten the stop to structure rather than raising the percentage. If sizes come out absurdly large, the per-lot value is probably misread against the broker's contract size.

Keep a one-line reference table of per-lot values so the figure is never re-derived from memory, and test the routine on paper for twenty trades, checking that every full stop costs the intended money.

When the routine is stable it takes under thirty seconds, which is what lets it survive a busy session. Review the percentage once a month against drawdown depth, not against confidence.

Worked example

A $100,000 simulated account, 1% risk per trade, four instruments, the same 20 pip stop. Sizes round down to a 0.01 lot step.

Risk money at 1%$1,000.00
EUR/USD lots (USD-quoted, $10 per pip per lot)5.00
USD/JPY lots (via USD/JPY at 150)7.49
Gold lots50.00
Index lots at $1 per point50.00
Actual risk on the EUR/USD size$1,000.00

Every row uses the same $1,000 risk. Only the per-lot value changes the size.

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Common mistakes

Sizing by habit instead of arithmeticA fixed 1 lot on gold risks far more than 1 lot on EUR/USD. Same size, different money, a 10x difference in damage.
Rounding the lot up0.37 becomes 0.40 and the stop now costs 8% more than planned, on every trade, forever.
Setting the stop by sizeChoosing a size first and a stop to fit it puts the stop somewhere structure never supported. At 3 lots instead of 5 the stop sits 8 pips closer, inside normal noise.
Forgetting equity changesAfter a 5% drawdown a stale size risks 1.05% instead of 1%, and after a 5% run it risks only 0.95%.

Checklist

  • Write the stop distance before touching the size field.
  • Compute risk money as percent of current equity.
  • Divide by the per-lot stop value for that instrument.
  • Round the lot down to the broker step.
  • Recalculate after every close.
  • Sanity check: does a full stop cost the percentage you intended.
  • If the size looks too small to matter, fix the stop, not the risk.

Key terms

lot
The traded unit. A standard lot is 100,000 units of the base currency.
pip value
Money one pip moves for one lot of that instrument.
lot step
The smallest size increment a broker accepts, often 0.01.
equity
Account balance including open profit and loss.

Takeaways

  • Sizing = (risk% x equity) / stop distance.
  • Fixed % risk makes every loss survivable.
  • Recalculate after every equity change.

Self-check

If you risk 1% and your stop is 20 pips, what sets your lot size?

The stop distance and your account equity, not a 'gut feel'.

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